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The Bargain Nexus - Adobe Indesign CS3 [OLD VERSION]
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List Price: $699.00
Our Price: $568.99
Your Save: $ 130.01 ( 19% )
Availability: Usually ships in 24 hours
Manufacturer: Adobe
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Batteries Included: 0
Binding: DVD-ROM
Brand: Adobe
EAN: 0883919085227
Feature: The ideal solution for designing professional page layouts using rich creative options
Format: DVD-ROM
Is Autographed: 0
Is Memorabilia: 0
Label: Adobe
Manufacturer: Adobe
Model: 27510927
Platform: Windows Vista Home Premium
Publisher: Adobe
Release Date: 2007-04-20
Special Features: nv:Software Type^Graphics
Studio: Adobe
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Features
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The ideal solution for designing professional page layouts using rich creative options
Boost efficiency through productivity enhancements and tight integration
Automate workflows and processes, including long-document publishing
Flexible XML import and export controls and robust scripting support
Design compelling page layouts that include transparency, creative effects, and gradient feathers
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Spotlight customer reviews:
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Customer Rating:
Summary: Hard to "Design" a better product
Comment: Let's start with a few disclaimers. If you don't have at least 2 Gigabytes of RAM on your computer, 50+ gigabytes of memory and a processor running at 1.5 gHZ or faster, there's a chance that this program will give you some issues. Additionally, as I've just learned from the earlier reviews, this program has the tendency to "bug up" from time to time. I've never had such a problem, but I'm certainly not the only in-design user out there.
Everyone has that set of programs on their computer that they go back to, time after time, either out of necessity or out of love. For me, those programs would be Mozilla Firefox, Google Earth, Microsoft Word and--surprise, surprise--Adobe In-Design 3. Certainly, the last enjoys far less attention than the first three, but that's why I'm writing this review. If I can get the everyday consumer to stop, pause and examine this gem of a program a bit more closely, I'll be doing my job.
Adobe In-Design is, among other things, a layout program. "I already have one of those," you think to yourself, and point to your Frontpage, Pagemaker or Microsoft Word CD. That's what I thought for the better part of my life. I was satisfied with the design capabilities of Word; sure, they weren't what the Post or the Times would use, but I got by. That's when a high school journalism class introduced me to In-Design. The software, complex and intimidating at first, soon became second nature as I mastered all the little quirks of the program.
Let's get one thing straight before we move on: this is not the type of software you want (or need) for Julie's fifth birthday invitation or the bakery's "Help Wanted" ad. In-Design is an expensive program. It also gives you a 747's worth of knobs, switches and settings to play around with. After 3 or 4 years of In-Design experience, I can safely say that I've only mastered 20% of the program. If you're looking for a simple, quick and cheap software, exit out of this page and do not return.
If you're still reading, that means you want to bring your design enterprise to the next level. This is where I explain why I gave this little box five stars. In-Design gives you more control than you can ever imagine. It's tailored to the professional; though I can't bring up any links, I'm pretty sure that some of the world's largest newsletters, newspapers and magazines run on it or a like program. Adobe In-Design doesn't just replace the cursor with a box-and-grid format; it lets you fine-tune your boxes, grids, text boxes, pictures and graphics to an unrivaled extent. ID lets you manage strokes (borders), swatches (color palettes), individual hue options, multiple pages and a plethora of text effects. One of its best features is "Object Styles," which allows you to set up a predetermined design for a box or graphic and replicate it across multiple versions of that box/graphic.
In-Design lets you adjust the font, leading, tracking, kerning, horizontal and vertical scaling, baseline shift and skew FOR A SINGLE LETTER. It goes to the thousandth of a pica in box measurements. (That's a thousandth of a 72nd of an inch.) There's also the good old pen tool, armed with a dizzying array of line and curve options. Forgive me if it sounds like I'm listing features; when it comes to a program like CS3, you tend to lapse into that sort of tone.
Admittedly, I'm not a professional designer. My pitch is better than that, though. In-Design MADE me want to become a professional designer, even if I'd had almost no layout experience beforehand. If you want to see how far Adobe's unmatched design program can take you, I would highly suggest adding this program to the toolbox. Expensive it might be (Ergo the 4 stars instead of 5), but InDesign is worth almost every cent.
Customer Rating:
Summary: Hard to "Design" a better product
Comment: Let's start with a few disclaimers. If you don't have at least 2 Gigabytes of RAM on your computer, 50+ gigabytes of memory and a processor running at 1.5 gHZ or faster, there's a chance that this program will give you some issues. Additionally, as I've just learned from the earlier reviews, this program has the tendency to "bug up" from time to time. I've never had such a problem, but I'm certainly not the only in-design user out there.
Everyone has that set of programs on their computer that they go back to, time after time, either out of necessity or out of love. For me, those programs would be Mozilla Firefox, Google Earth, Microsoft Word and--surprise, surprise--Adobe In-Design 3. Certainly, the last enjoys far less attention than the first three, but that's why I'm writing this review. If I can get the everyday consumer to stop, pause and examine this gem of a program a bit more closely, I'll be doing my job.
Adobe In-Design is, among other things, a layout program. "I already have one of those," you think to yourself, and point to your Frontpage, Pagemaker or Microsoft Word CD. That's what I thought for the better part of my life. I was satisfied with the design capabilities of Word; sure, they weren't what the Post or the Times would use, but I got by. That's when a high school journalism class introduced me to In-Design. The software, complex and intimidating at first, soon became second nature as I mastered all the little quirks of the program.
Let's get one thing straight before we move on: this is not the type of software you want (or need) for Julie's fifth birthday invitation or the bakery's "Help Wanted" ad. In-Design is an expensive program. It also gives you a 747's worth of knobs, switches and settings to play around with. After 3 or 4 years of In-Design experience, I can safely say that I've only mastered 20% of the program. If you're looking for a simple, quick and cheap software, exit out of this page and do not return.
If you're still reading, that means you want to bring your design enterprise to the next level. This is where I explain why I gave this little box five stars. In-Design gives you more control than you can ever imagine. It's tailored to the professional; though I can't bring up any links, I'm pretty sure that some of the world's largest newsletters, newspapers and magazines run on it or a like program. Adobe In-Design doesn't just replace the cursor with a box-and-grid format; it lets you fine-tune your boxes, grids, text boxes, pictures and graphics to an unrivaled extent. ID lets you manage strokes (borders), swatches (color palettes), individual hue options, multiple pages and a plethora of text effects. One of its best features is "Object Styles," which allows you to set up a predetermined design for a box or graphic and replicate it across multiple versions of that box/graphic.
In-Design lets you adjust the font, leading, tracking, kerning, horizontal and vertical scaling, baseline shift and skew FOR A SINGLE LETTER. It goes to the thousandth of a pica in box measurements. (That's a thousandth of a 72nd of an inch.) There's also the good old pen tool, armed with a dizzying array of line and curve options. Forgive me if it sounds like I'm listing features; when it comes to a program like CS3, you tend to lapse into that sort of tone.
Admittedly, I'm not a professional designer. My pitch is better than that, though. In-Design MADE me want to become a professional designer, even if I'd had almost no layout experience beforehand. If you want to see how far Adobe's unmatched design program can take you, I would highly suggest adding this program to the toolbox. Expensive it might be, but InDesign is worth every cent.
Customer Rating:
Summary: Not worth upgrading from CS2
Comment: I have been using this program for the last 4 months and I have to say that I cannot find any reason to upgrade from CS2 to CS3.
First there are a few annoying bugs, the one that affects me the most is that when switching between Adobe products and other windows, eventually InDesign CS3 will simply vanish. It will not be in my taskbar, and it will not show up in the Applications tab of the taskmanager. You have to search for the Process Indesign.exe in the processes tab and kill it before you can restart InDesign CS3 to continue using it.
Also the new palette system is much, much worse than what was used in CS2. In CS2 you could dock the palettes to the side of the application, and when you were not using them you could click on the palettes and they would fold into the side of the program, with just tabs with text labels visible, but easy enough to find an open with a click. You could dock palettes to the left and right of the program, which I did since I use a lot of palettes all the time.
In CS3 the palettes can be docked to the sides, but you cannot dock a palette directly beneath the toolbar. The toolbar has its own "drawer" and any palettes docked on the same side as the toolbar push the toolbar out and make a second drawer, which defeats the purpose of of docking things to the side. Also the nice tabs with text labels have been replaced with little icons, which are just a pain to learn. The toolbar has enough icons, I don't need more palettes with little pictures on them when all I want to to adjust the transparecny of an element. Also another annoying thing is that they changed the "Transparency" palette, which adjusts transparency, into the "Effects" palette. For the first 3 days I thought they had simply removed the ability to adjust transparency since I could not find the transparency palette (which is what this similar palette is called in ALL other Adobe programs.. so much for keeping your interfaces uniform..)
All in all this program is not worth the upgrade. It is buggy, has no new features that are worth anything, and the new palettes are a step backwards in terms of useability.
Customer Rating:
Summary: Lots of Potential ... but Lethally "Buggy"
Comment: I purchased Adobe InDesign after using Adobe GoLive and being extremely satisfied with the latter's sleek GUI, compatability with Adobe Illustrator and overall ease-of-use. I suspect that Adobe InDesign boasts the same qualities ... if you're actually capable of installing it. I carefully spec'ed the product before buying it to ensure my PC met the requirements and found out that it exceeded the requirements in every way. When I went to install the product, it initialized but would never install ... worse yet, the installer just disappeared and never displayed an error. When I looked on Adobe's website, it stated that "Adobe is aware of the issue and is currently researching the causes." The website proposed some possible fixes; none of which worked in my case.
The folks at Adobe, despite some valiant attempts, could not determine what caused the installation problem and had me attempting to do everything from installing additional RAM (above and beyond the requirements on the packaging specs)to uninstalling and reinstalling Internet Explorer, the whole Adobe suite, and my operating system. After 2 days of back-and-forth support conversations, I finally gave up and returned the product. It seemed incredible that the software did not have a proper installation logging and debugging program. There was a lot of whispering among the tech support representatives that many of the issues were related to Adobe's change in installation procedures with the new installer versions requiring Adobe Flash.
I am a huge Adobe fan ... I have been using Adobe Illustrator and GoLive for several years now and have only positive comments about them. However, if you're going to purchase Adobe InDesign, I recommend you buy the CS2 version until Adobe debugs the CS3 version. Once Adobe straightens out the CS3 version, you could always upgrade ... and the extra cost would certainly be justified by the time savings of trying to debug this quirkly little version.
Customer Rating:
Summary: Don't buy. Wait for CS4
Comment: At this point, I'd strongly suggest that you not buy this version and instead wait for the CS4 version of InDesign, which should be coming out in October 2008. Here's a review of the new features it offers.
INDESIGN CS4
What's great about this upgrade is that no particularly category of user is slighted. Those who deal with graphics rich documents get Smart Guides and an improved Links panel. Those who work with long, complex documents get cross-references and Smart Text Reflow. Those who do catalogs get conditional text and direct-to-PDF output. Those into multimedia get Flash output two ways. For everyone there's an improve user interface that includes tabbed windows for those have more windows open than they have display space. Finally, almost everyone seems delighted by a surprise new feature, GREP styles, which is great for taking care of all the niggling little formatting chores inside a paragraph. All these features save time and make the work go smoother.
It is true that Adobe might have done more. ID still won't let a paragraph style define a heading spanning multiple columns. One Adobe programmer told me that required hard work, text in columns has to be organized to end in a nice row before the heading. That may be true, but other products do it, including the two-decade old FrameMaker, and the alternative is clumsy fiddling with frames that get out of kilter in the text or formatting is changed. As it stands now, Smart Text Reflow and Conditional Text can't be used with multi-column plus heading text.
And in the timesaving department, linking frames is still the Nuisance of Nuisances. ID needs Named Frames, which would allow users to attach a name to all frames in the same sequence, something particularly useful for magazines and newspapers Add another feature called Smart Frames, which would automatically link all frames in a specific order--top to bottom, right to left, lower to higher page--and linking frames would become easy. Those who want something unusual could still do things the old way.
In short this is a solid and useful upgrade for almost anyone who uses ID more than occasionally. It'll save you time and let you produce more complex, better looking documents with less effort. If you use ID more than a few hours a week, this is a must-have upgrade.
--Michael W. Perry, Untangling Tolkien: A Chronology and Commentary for The Lord of the Rings
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Editorial Reviews:
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With Adobe InDesign CS3 you'll be equipped to explore more creative possibilities and experience new levels of productivity. Built for demanding workflows, InDesign integrates smoothly with Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InCopy, and Dreamweaver software; offers powerful features for creating richer, more complex documents; and reliably outputs pages to multiple media. With its sophisticated design features and enhanced productivity tools for streamlining repetitive tasks, InDesign CS3 lets you work faster and better than ever. Tables and cell style formatting Multiple Undo/Redo commands PDF export for streamlined prepress review or final output Photoshop and PDF layer support JDF information passes to Acrobat with PDF files Output previews ensure best results when printing transparencies Simple preflight and packagaing helps you avoid delays ICC_based color settings for consistent colors & swatches Flexible XML workflow - apply XSLT stylesheets Automate tasks with JavaScript, AppleScript, VBScript Backwards compatible with QuarkXPress 3.3-4.1, PageMaker 6.0-7.x files Use the ExtendScript toolkit to create, edit and debug JavaScripts in InDesign Accurate, reliable prepress and printing -- plus support for PDF files and sharing custom presets Integrates with Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InCopy and Dreamweaver
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